Dr. Ron Paul on “Flip-Flopping” Anti-War Democrats – FOX News Radio

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Wednesday on “The Alan Colmes Show,” Alan spoke with former Congressman and Presidential candidate Dr. Ron Paul about President Obama’s strategy for defeating ISIS in the Middle East.

Dr. Paul criticized liberal Democrats who said they were anti-war during the George W. Bush Administration, but now support President Obama. He also discussed where he differs with his son, Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY), and his recent comments about how Scotland’s vote on independence could influence others movements, including secession in the United States.

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COLMES: Your son Rand Paul was one of the few people to vote against arming the oppositions in Syria, because we know that those weapons are going to ultimately wind up, just as the weapons used by ISIS in Iraq are now being used against us. It seems we learn nothing from history, I don’t get it

DR. PAUL: No and that makes no sense whatsoever. I think this rolling over is an important point that you bring up. Why do they do this, why do they cave in? It was the fact that I stood my ground when people got after me on my foreign policy that really gave me the credibility. So I would think a liberal Democrat who got elected, they look terrible. You know “I’m against the war, now I’m for the war,” they don’t win over the pro-war people anyway so I think flip-flopping is worse than holding a position where there’s some disagreement.

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COLMES: You and Rand I know have different views, you don’t agree on everything, and you’re not his spokesperson nor he yours, but I think many people look to him to carry that torch. Do you see it that way?

DR. PAUL: What I think that’s what the media paints. And you’re right, I don’t like to dwell on that, he has his life and his politics, obviously when you and I talk, we don’t dwell and you don’t yell at me for disagreeing with you. But we try to look at the things that we agree on. And that’s why when the media tries to drive this “Well Rand said this and you said this.” I understand this from the media because it stirs up something, it’s not really enjoyable for me.

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COLMES: Do you see (secession from the union) happening here domestically?

DR. PAUL: Here in this country? Yeah, I think the move is generating interest as a reflection of the failure of the state and the failure of this current administration. So people are reacting saying, “Well, it doesn’t work well.”

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COLMES: Do you think the Republicans will take over the Senate this midterm election?
DR. PAUL: I think probably…generally speaking it doesn’t make a whole lot of difference.



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Ron Paul: Secessionism is ‘grand American tradition’ – RT

Published time: September 30, 2014 18:33
Edited time: October 01, 2014 08:10
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On the heels of a failed attempt in Scotland to separate from the UK, longtime American lawmaker Ron Paul is opening up about his take on secessionism in the United States.

Recent polling suggests that roughly a quarter of Americans support the notion of being able to have their state separate from the rest of the US, and Paul — the 79-year-old former Republican congressman and three-time presidential hopeful — says citizens who celebrate that inkling are expressing something inherently American.

“Americans who embrace secession are acting in a grand American tradition,” the ex-lawmaker wrote in an editorial published on Sunday by the Ron Paul Institute for Peace and Prosperity. “The Declaration of Independence was written to justify secession from Britain. Supporters of liberty should cheer the growth in support for secession, as it is the ultimate rejection of centralized government and the ideologies of Keynesianism, welfarism and militarism.”

Paul goes on to cite a recent Reuters/Ipsos poll that found roughly 23.9 percent of Americans strongly support or tend to support the idea of having their state break away from the US in acknowledging that the secessionist movement isn’t something solely making waves in Scotland right now, where residents voted earlier this month 55.3 percent to 44.7 percent in favor of staying with the UK.

“Even though it ultimately failed at the ballot box, the recent campaign for Scottish independence should cheer supporters of the numerous secession movements springing up around the globe,” Paul wrote on his website.

“The possibility that people will break away from an oppressive government is one of the most effective checks on the growth of government. It is no coincidence that the transformation of America from a limited republic to a monolithic welfare-warfare state coincided with the discrediting of secession as an appropriate response to excessive government,” he added.

Following up with the National Journal this week with respect to his op-ed, Paul said he was both “real pleased” and “a bit surprised” to learn that secessionist movements in the US exist to a greater degree than he had figured.

"It's something that I think is going to grow, because the failure of the federal government is going to get much worse," he said. "When the bankruptcy evolves, and maybe some of these pension funds are confiscated, and the wars never end, and bankruptcy comes forth, people [will say], 'Hey, we're getting a bad deal from this. Why don't we leave?' "

"I think it's inevitable people wanting to leave will be there, and the numbers will grow,” Paul added.

According to the recent Reuters/Ipsos poll, more than one-third of residents of the American southwest that were surveyed said they support seceding.

"Texas has everything we need. We have the manufacturing, we have the oil, and we don't need them," Mark Denny, a 59-year-old retired Republican from near Dallas, Texas told Reuters. "I have totally, completely lost faith in the federal government, the people running it, whether Republican, Democrat, independent, whatever," he said.

"I better check out and see who's running Austin before we decide about that,” Paul said of a possible Texas secession when speaking to the National Journal.


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Ron Paul recently wrote an article entitled “Scottish Referendum Gives Reason to be Hopeful” in which he discussed the reasons why secessionist movements are good politically.

As he wrote:

“Americans who embrace secession are acting in a grand American tradition. The Declaration of Independence was written to justify secession from Britain. Supporters of liberty should cheer the growth in support for secession, as it is the ultimate rejection of centralized government and the ideologies of Keynesianism, welfarism, and militarism.”

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“I was real pleased with that, and a bit surprised. But then, on second thought, you think, ‘Why not? Why not more?'”

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If Paul thinks that US secessionist movements contribute to US political discourse, he does not see any of them as being ultimately successful. He told the National Journal if the secessionist movements were successful, the “heavy hand of government would come down,” and “they’d probably shoot them.”

Paul thinks there should be a “concrete right to secede.”

“Even if we never had any secession, or any state declare independence, we would be so much better off, because there would always be this threat. Once the threat of a state leaving was removed, it was just open-door policy for the federal government to expand itself and run roughshod out over the states because the states couldn’t do much.”

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